Creative Theology
The following are posts from the Assemblyboard, providing clear evidence of the "creative theology" that was "tried out" on unsuspecting brethren. Does anyone have notes on the "seventh day creation of Adam" teaching that you would be willing to send in? It would be good to have some documentation.
From Canada:
“I would like to cite two obvious examples of the degree of our deception:
7th day creation of Adam
Taught in Fullerton, at a Midwest Seminar and at a Workers Seminar.
I do not recall hearing George teach this, however others have. How many gave him the benefit of the doubt on this? How many talked to him about it? How many actually took a stand against him on this? How many didn't even 'realize' that they were taught this (maybe I am one of them)?"
Superhuman Christ
The teaching goes something like this: Christ never sweat, choked, got dust in his eyes, burped, etc. He wasn't really human, but superhuman.
I personally heard Tim Geftakys speak of his leaning towards this kind of belief. I was present when my husband talked to Tim about this after the meeting, and Tim did not change his mind at the time.
He may have changed his opinion about this now, however it does indicate that he was heavily influenced by his father (George Geftakys), and was deceived. It brings into question to whether or not he is qualified to lead any flock until his head has been cleared from his cloudy deceptive condition.“
Other witnesses from the Assemblyboard on the 7th day teaching:
- Tony, in regard to his decision to leave the Assembly - "It was 2 years in the making, seeing a number of other things that disturbed me, capped off by hearing the "main man" in the ministry regularly and with authority inform us that God created man on the 7th day - thus completely destroying my understanding of new testament sabbath rest, and defying every known and respected Biblical scholar throughout all of history. This of course left me unable to understand why somebody was allowed to hop from place to place and preach this nonsense without being asked to sit down. Much to my dismay, not only was he not being given the cane, I discovered that several, leadership and non leadership, were also starting to agree?? In perfect culmination, my last meeting in fellowship was all about the blessed labor of love that God did in creating man - on the SEVENTH day, while basically mocking those who might be inclined to challenge this glorious new revelation."
- "Anonymous" posted this: "George taught seventh day creation several times, in public, at seminars. While it is probable that leaders questioned him on this, the fact that he never corrected or retracted his error, and continued to teach it, over a period greater than one year means that he was allowed to do so."
From Annandale, VA:
“Lack of discernment is something I believe we all need to seriously face. [Another individual] and I were present to hear the 7th day creation teaching when we were guests at the 2002 worker's conference.
[The individual who was with me] asked four brothers (all Workers) after the meeting in their cabin if he had heard George correctly--"Did he say what I think he said?” They all agreed that's what he said, and the conversation stopped dead right there. It's way past time for us to have our 'senses exercised to discern good and evil'.”
From San Luis Obispo, CA:
“Tim Geftakys told us that ‘contrary to some Christians' beliefs’ God did not become a man. What? Now we were totally lost. What's the incarnation mean? I thought Jesus was 100% God & 100% man. But Tim proceeded to tell us that God always existed and couldn't change to become anything or anyone. Therefore, it was his and George’s view that God did NOT ‘become’ a man. Thank God we were out of there within a year”.
Other examples of wrong teaching in the Assembly:
Errors in Doctrine and Practice »»
Full Salvation by Devout Effort »»
Evaluation of Statements from Torch and Testimony Publications »»
